Gotta love how the new search feature completely blows away your ability to hide page updates unless you have some way of password protecting them. To a certain extent, nekoweb is the same way. So yeah, great job, indie web leaders, taking the pry bar to our privacy once again.
how does it impact hiding page updates? As far as I can tell it simply searches the html pages for given keywords, so I don't see how that can impact hiding page updates unless you just don't want the page at all to not be seen
not only does it feel like an invasion, it ruins the element of surprise of going into a site completely blind without knowing what's there besides the tags on the site's profile. it genuinely feels like these indie admins are evolving backwards.
this feels like a non-issue unless you only use the web editor for your pages though, you can just store .html and other files you don't want the public to see on local space?
i personally found it useful to search for things like graphics or blinkies, maybe searching for specific interests too? i think neocities was never really meant to be private either way, people can still access files you don't share by typing the url. thats just how html works. i agree with the comment above about just not uploading things you don't want anyone to see
OHH WOW Thank you for informing me, as someone who has a second wip website ive been keeping hidden as i work on finishing it, words cannot describe how frustrating this is to hear! I would actually sell my kidneys if it meant we were informed on any the changes that happen on this site! I've been considering buying pro but the general unprofessionalism is really making me reconsider!
(I should add i know you can just self host, but sometimes stuff appears differently on neocities so its sometimes good to double check before you make it public, especially if you're trying to share it with a smaller group for feedback.)
it's not a matter of what's practical, it's a matter of what is currently happening. like it or not, people do have private pages that they want to keep private despite uploading them to their webhosts. assume i have the word "nintendo" on 2 public pages and 3 private pages. by searching hotcat for "badgraph1csghost, nintendo" you will be able to see the 3 private instances as well as the 2 public ones.
would it make more sense to simply keep private pages local rather than uploading them here? probably, but that is not what's currently happening on this host. neocities is essentially saying "don't put up anything you wouldn't want your mother to see, because i'm going to try as hard as i can to make sure she sees everything you post here".
i mean i think what they're saying is "here is a search feature so it's easier to find sites that have the content you look for" and that's it LOL. neocities is a host for your (public) website, not a private cloud service... sure people may want to have private pages but why would neocities accomodate for something that was never the point of it at all
i didn't even consider this! thanks for pointing it out; yeah, it is iffy that someone can just find a page you don't have up "publicly" like an old page that's still uploaded but isn't meant to be part of the site anymore, or something very personal. if not just eschewing the search feature, maybe they should add a "private page" feature to compensate.
i'm not on github (never had an acc and they doubled down on the genAI stuff so non buono) but i do know neocities accepts requests or concerns on their page there via issues or pulls. perhaps someone should raise the concern there?
how does it impact hiding page updates? As far as I can tell it simply searches the html pages for given keywords, so I don't see how that can impact hiding page updates unless you just don't want the page at all to not be seen
Yeah all my pages that are half baked that I wanted to keep hidden are now wide open :(
what are yall talking about? some change that i didn't receive yet?
not only does it feel like an invasion, it ruins the element of surprise of going into a site completely blind without knowing what's there besides the tags on the site's profile. it genuinely feels like these indie admins are evolving backwards.
this feels like a non-issue unless you only use the web editor for your pages though, you can just store .html and other files you don't want the public to see on local space?
i personally found it useful to search for things like graphics or blinkies, maybe searching for specific interests too? i think neocities was never really meant to be private either way, people can still access files you don't share by typing the url. thats just how html works. i agree with the comment above about just not uploading things you don't want anyone to see
OHH WOW Thank you for informing me, as someone who has a second wip website ive been keeping hidden as i work on finishing it, words cannot describe how frustrating this is to hear! I would actually sell my kidneys if it meant we were informed on any the changes that happen on this site! I've been considering buying pro but the general unprofessionalism is really making me reconsider!
(I should add i know you can just self host, but sometimes stuff appears differently on neocities so its sometimes good to double check before you make it public, especially if you're trying to share it with a smaller group for feedback.)
it's not a matter of what's practical, it's a matter of what is currently happening. like it or not, people do have private pages that they want to keep private despite uploading them to their webhosts. assume i have the word "nintendo" on 2 public pages and 3 private pages. by searching hotcat for "badgraph1csghost, nintendo" you will be able to see the 3 private instances as well as the 2 public ones.
would it make more sense to simply keep private pages local rather than uploading them here? probably, but that is not what's currently happening on this host. neocities is essentially saying "don't put up anything you wouldn't want your mother to see, because i'm going to try as hard as i can to make sure she sees everything you post here".
i mean i think what they're saying is "here is a search feature so it's easier to find sites that have the content you look for" and that's it LOL. neocities is a host for your (public) website, not a private cloud service... sure people may want to have private pages but why would neocities accomodate for something that was never the point of it at all
i didn't even consider this! thanks for pointing it out; yeah, it is iffy that someone can just find a page you don't have up "publicly" like an old page that's still uploaded but isn't meant to be part of the site anymore, or something very personal. if not just eschewing the search feature, maybe they should add a "private page" feature to compensate.
i'm not on github (never had an acc and they doubled down on the genAI stuff so non buono) but i do know neocities accepts requests or concerns on their page there via issues or pulls. perhaps someone should raise the concern there?